Pepsi 500 - Fontana

[Hendrick48]

Well the bandwagons empty again....who's ready to jump on?? :D

Or who is going to win at Fontana???

http://www.autoclubspeedway.com/images/gallery/422%2Ejpg
I'll take that #48 car

[late model fan]

I'll take a I don't give a rats a$$...................Maybe I'll take David Ragan......Yeah that's it David Ragan. Anyways of to freddy n.b. tomorrow for a weekend of short track racing super late model style.............Hope you guys enjoy your 500 miles on monatany...............

[Offenhauser]

I'll just take Kyle Busch in the fence during the highlights on sportcenter :D

[Cosworth]

No bandwagon for now. ;)

Put me in for #24, Jeff Gordon. A good place for that team to break out of the slump.

RJ

[Shatterstar]

Jimmie Johnson

Shatterstar
Jason

[indy1]

Jimmy Johnson #48

[Octranspo]

#24 Jeff Gordon,,he is so due..

[pkrash]

I'll go with #9.....and I hope he runs the #18 into the wall......

[TKG]

sorry....missed last race...will go with Tony and the 20 car

[Watson Roadster]

I'll take a I don't give a rats a$$...................Maybe I'll take David Ragan......Yeah that's it David Ragan. Anyways of to freddy n.b. tomorrow for a weekend of short track racing super late model style.............Hope you guys enjoy your 500 miles on monatany...............
You bet!!!I'm counting down the days until the Nationals!!!!
You won't need a sedative for this one.I'm torn between cuting the lawn or Bombers/'Riders at Taylor Field...
Kyle Bush

[Intrepid]

#12 :D Newman

[Amby]

greg biffle.....

[race1010]

Haven't done too well (ok, haven't picked the right driver in the right race once yet!)......no sense picking the obvious, so let's go with a guy who, if nobody runs him off the road 3 weeks in a row, could break out! I'll go with Dave Blaney in the #22!

[Rossi46]

#48 Jimmie Johnson

[Hendrick48]

Haven't done too well (ok, haven't picked the right driver in the right race once yet!)......no sense picking the obvious, so let's go with a guy who, if nobody runs him off the road 3 weeks in a row, could break out! I'll go with Dave Blaney in the #22!


LMFAO!!!:D you don't want any points do ya......

[Hendrick48]

greg biffle.....
Amby...best track for McMurray! and you don't go for your guy ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

[race1010]

Well, sooooory! I guess if all the cars had a '48' painted on the side, we'd all be ok in your world.....just watched JJ in the Nationwide, and he sure as hell didn't impress me ('course he didn't take up 3 lanes at once tonight like in the truck race last week either!:rolleyes:)! At least some of us have the capacity to think outside the box, H48. :p

[Hendrick48]

race1010
Whoaaaa don't get the panties in the knot, boy - I'm glad ya watched the Nationwide race! , I wasn't the only bored fuck :)- yea Pffffuctola on Busch....and hey pal I don't think that we all have to go #48! each to there own! but Blaney!!?? whahaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!(0 points if ya do, thinkaboutit)

P.S. both my kids live in BC , you are in a primo place.....
just not a good place to see Nascar,

fly out sometime to TO, hook up on a good package deal, like we do and we'll show ya a great time south of the border in NASCARLAND!http://www.mazeguy.net/happy/thumbsup.gif


Line up for Pepsi 500

1 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's / Jimmie Johnson Foundation 180.397 39.912 Leader
2 84 A.J. Allmendinger Toyota Red Bull 179.659 40.076 -0.164
3 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Pepsi / DuPont 179.565 40.097 -0.185
4 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Budweiser 179.158 40.188 -0.276
5 10 Patrick Carpentier* Dodge Sears Auto Center / Valvoline 178.860 40.255 -0.343
6 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge McDonald's 178.492 40.338 -0.426
7 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker 178.434 40.351 -0.439
8 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar 178.381 40.363 -0.451
9 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite 178.165 40.412 -0.500
10 8 Aric Almirola Chevrolet U.S. Army 178.134 40.419 -0.507
11 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's 178.125 40.421 -0.509
12 44 David Reutimann Toyota UPS Store / Toys for Tots Literacy Program 178.015 40.446 -0.534
13 26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal 178.006 40.448 -0.536
14 20 Tony Stewart Toyota Subway / Home Depot 177.857 40.482 -0.570
15 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M 177.747 40.507 -0.595
16 5 Casey Mears Chevrolet Cheez-It / CARQUEST 177.615 40.537 -0.625
17 12 Ryan Newman Dodge Kodak 177.488 40.566 -0.654
18 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet AMP Energy / National Guard 177.454 40.574 -0.662
19 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull 177.392 40.588 -0.676
20 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Furniture Row
/ DenverMattress.com 177.187 40.635 -0.723
21 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Ground 177.183 40.636 -0.724
22 6 David Ragan Ford AAA Insurance 177.130 40.648 -0.736
23 42 Juan Montoya Dodge Texaco / Havoline 176.982 40.682 -0.770
24 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios / Betty Crocker 176.939 40.692 -0.780
25 01 Regan Smith* Chevrolet DEI / Principal Financial Group 176.917 40.697 -0.785
26 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac 176.791 40.726 -0.814
27 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility 176.722 40.742 -0.830
28 96 Ken Schrader Toyota DLP HDTV 176.397 40.817 -0.905
29 15 Paul Menard Chevrolet Johns Manville / Menards 176.393 40.818 -0.906
30 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA AUTO PARTS 176.337 40.831 -0.919
31 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Jack Daniel's 176.302 40.839 -0.927
32 77 Sam Hornish Jr.* Dodge Penske Truck Rental 175.983 40.913 -1.001
33 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil 175.880 40.937 -1.025
34 28 Travis Kvapil Ford Hitachi "Inspire the Next" 175.764 40.964 -1.052
35 00 Mike Skinner Toyota Affliction "Day of Reckoning" 175.571 41.009 -1.097
36 7 Robby Gordon Dodge Monster Energy 175.426 41.043 -1.131
37 17 Matt Kenseth Ford R+L Carriers 175.357 41.059 -1.147
38 45 Kyle Petty Dodge Wells Fargo 175.357 41.059 -1.147
39 66 Scott Riggs Chevrolet State Water Heaters 175.264 41.081 -1.169
40 21 Marcos Ambrose Ford Little Debbie 175.187 41.099 -1.187
41 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge Target 175.029 41.136 -1.224
42 38 David Gilliland+ Ford CitiFinancial 173.273 41.553 -1.641
43 08 Johnny Sauter Dodge FUBAR All Natural Drink 174.617 41.233 -1.321

Did Not Qualify
44 70 Tony Raines Chevrolet Haas Automation 174.376 41.290 -1.378

[race1010]

LMFAO!!!:D you don't want any points do ya......

Dave Blaney is due for a change of luck after getting caught in hard crashes he didn’t cause in each of the last three NASCAR Sprint Cup races.

Blaney may have gotten a glimpse of some good fortune ahead Saturday night at Auto Club Speedway, where his No. 22 Bill Davis Racing Toyota Camry was fastest in the final “Happy Hour” practice session for the Pepsi 500. www.speed.com

Hey, H48 - when you're in last place, there's nowhere to go but up! :D:D

[Hendrick48]

Dave Blaney is due for a change of luck after getting caught in hard crashes he didn’t cause in each of the last three NASCAR Sprint Cup races.

Blaney may have gotten a glimpse of some good fortune ahead Saturday night at Auto Club Speedway, where his No. 22 Bill Davis Racing Toyota Camry was fastest in the final “Happy Hour” practice session for the Pepsi 500. www.speed.com

Hey, H48 - when you're in last place, there's nowhere to go but up!

$10.00 Blaney doesn't win :D (or get a top 5)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/badboyzracin/10dollars.jpg
(10 Quebec dollars that is :))

DEAL or NO DEAL ?!?

paypal accepted

[Cosworth]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/badboyzracin/10dollars.jpg
(10 Quebec dollars that is :))




You Canadians have got some funny names for your money- loonies, toonies, and now boobies. :D

RJ

[race1010]

$10.00 Blaney doesn't win :D (or get a top 5)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/badboyzracin/10dollars.jpg
(10 Quebec dollars that is)

DEAL or NO DEAL ?!?

paypal accepted

Yo, H....grew up in the GTA, only moved west 10 or 11 years ago so I can relate to the fact we ain't got no racing out here and that you're a hell of a lot closer to a better choice of tracks. :( For $10 bucks you're on, except it goes to the winners charity, since I don't really think you or I need the $$....deal?
PS - I like the look of the money from Quebec too!! :D

[race1010]

you Canadians Have Got Some Funny Names For Your Money- Loonies, Toonies, And Now Boobies. :d

Rj

Mmmmmmmm........boobies! :d:d

[Watson Roadster]

$10.00 Blaney doesn't win :D (or get a top 5)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/badboyzracin/10dollars.jpg
(10 Quebec dollars that is :))

DEAL or NO DEAL ?!?

paypal accepted

I like Blaney...He was a real good open wheel shoe.He's won a USAC Silver Crown National Championship and a World of Outlaw National championship,but he's never done alot in a stock car.Methinks it has alot to do with the equipment he's been in...

I still would'nt take that bet!!!:eek:The girl yes,but not the bet....

By the way,does her boob job look like it's not done right?Her floatation devices seem unbooblike and improperly shaped...

[race1010]

Yeah, they do look like they're pressed up against glass, don't they?? (Not that that's really an issue, is it??) :D

[Watson Roadster]

Not really,but if I were her I might have an issue with the plastic surgeon.

[Amby]

Amby...best track for McMurray! and you don't go for your guy ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

did u see what happen to him omg.... i don't pick him he has bad luck then when i pick he has worse luck so no i didn't pick him and looks who is leading this lap.....

[Hendrick48]

Well Jimmie clearly had the fastest car, watch out Shrub and Flipper, JJ's comin' for a 3peat :D

http://www.racingone.com/images/articles/large/44742_large.jpg

Congrats to Shatterstar,Rossi46,indy1 and Me for picking JJ to win :)

>>>ToMo NASCAR Pool Standings<<<

Amby – 5
Shatterstar - 4
Hendrick48 - 4
late model fan – 4
Rossi46 - 2
pkrash – 2
Cosworth -1
octranspo – 1
Intrepid - 1
indy1 - 1
TKG - *
Watson Roadster- *
Race1010 - *

[race1010]

[QUOTE=Hendrick48;3387]Well Jimmie clearly had the fastest car, watch out Shrub and Flipper, JJ's comin' for a 3peat :D

http://www.racingone.com/images/articles/large/44742_large.jpg

Congrats to Shatterstar,Rossi46,indy1 and Me for picking JJ to win :)

....guess that's why it's JJ's home track....only thing that coulda slowed him down would have been a spike-belt! Good to see there's a Chevy joining Flipper's Ford and Shrub's Toyota in the Chase! Maybe it'll get more interesting (yawn!) than last night's race...:rolleyes:

[Hendrick48]

....guess that's why it's JJ's home track....only thing that coulda slowed him down would have been a spike-belt! Good to see there's a Chevy joining Flipper's Ford and Shrub's Toyota in the Chase! Maybe it'll get more interesting (yawn!) than last night's race...:rolleyes:

THE BLANEY BET:
For $10 bucks you're on, except it goes to the winners charity, since I don't really think you or I need the $$....deal?




1010 -Ya owe me $10 :D I'll donate it to the Quebec girls at Misty's (local strip bar);)

[race1010]

1010 -Ya owe me $10. I'll donate it to the Quebec girls at Misty's (local strip bar)

Ya, I know (argh)! ;) Contact me directly through the ToMo private message tab with your PayPal info....since we have no strip bars (to speak of) in politically-correct BC, I might as well fund a fellow ToMo'er back east, huh? :cool: Again - enjoy Richmond. :D

[race1010]

......copied from Nascar.com blog......;)

It was clear that JJ's car had more hp/speed than anything else on the track. Will they remove the engine and dyno it and if they did, would they tell the truth-NO. Another HMS run for the cup under a different set of rules! :o

Hmmmm, interesting....didn't hear too much bitching about JJ's engine domination, oh, that's right, it's cause he's a superior driver over the rest of the field!!

(Not my thoughts, however, I wonder how many fans think the say as this blogger...?) :eek:

[Watson Roadster]

The way Kyle Bush dominated the Nationwide race in Saturday makes me think they must still be cheating,even with the France family special restrictor plate!!!;):D

[Hendrick48]

Holy chit! do we have to hear this CRAP everytime someone wins a race?!? wtf....let it go boys...
You don't like the racing, it's simple...don't watch it...watch the little league Late Model stocks if that's your thing, ya don't hear me whining about that....although it's about as exciting as go-cart racing to me.....or F1 or Lemans, theres lots of other motorsports out there....
Sure the crap COT racing this year is losing fans, GOOD! that may mean when I go to a Nascar race there will be more seats available and lower ticket prices :D bewty! I have been a fan for over 20 years and I'm in for the long haul...

Read this blurb from Jeff Hammond...he has a good spin on it..

Looking for answers after California

Let's not sugarcoat things, folks.

I know the last couple of weeks have been frustrating from a fans' standpoint. Heck, for that matter, maybe even from a competitor's point of view, too. We just aren't seeing the racing we thought we were going to get.
And last weekend's race at Auto Club Speedway in Fontana, Calif., may have produced the perfect example of "stinking up the show." It just wasn't very exciting.

Are the Racing Gods plotting against us?

Yes, you can salvage any racetrack. I think we have seen across the board how you can do that — just look at tracks like Homestead-Miami Speedway in recent years.

But I am going to tell you something that NASCAR and Auto Club Speedway probably doesn't want to hear: The fix for this problem is putting the race date back where it belongs in Darlington. I swear its part of the curse that was put upon them because they never should have moved the Southern 500 to begin with. Talk about a track with character — that's Darlington Raceway. That place was a Labor Day destination point. I don't know, maybe it's the Racing Gods getting back at them for doing what they are doing in California. Maybe things will be better starting next year when the track swaps positions on the schedule with Atlanta Motor Speedway.

To be fair, I don't know that the track in California is the problem. Let's face it, Bristol has a bunch more banking, and they faced the same issues a couple weeks ago. So are we going to blame the track? What's the other common denominator here? The answer is this new car.


Time to figure it out
Maybe we need to slow down, back up and look at the big picture.

What is actually going on here? Fortunately, it's not the same team that is hitting on it every week and running away with things. It's been Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards and this past weekend, it was Jimmie Johnson's show. It could be someone else who dominates this weekend at Richmond. You just don't know why it's happening this way.

I think we are really going to have to look hard and do some serious analysis about what we can do to make this better. I am just being honest. I just wasn't that impressed with the racing we saw this weekend. I am looking for the opportunity where these guys can put on more of a show with passing and hard racing.

It is frustrating for all those involved. I think we all are disappointed because again, this is not what we had hoped for in this deal. You can't tell me that the folks at NASCAR right now aren't the same way. I mean c'mon, this isn't what they are looking for either.

It is similar to the tire situation a few months ago. Everyone wanted to crucify Goodyear. It seems like everyone is looking for somewhere to lay the blame all the time. I just think we should all step back, acknowledge there is a problem and work collectively to fix it.

NASCAR is smart enough to realize that this car needs some work. Remember, this is the first time this car has ever been run full time. Sure, you are going to have growing pains — that is a given. But the anticipation was for better racing, so the frustration comes from the realization that it hasn't worked out that way yet. Sometimes you just don't know what to say or do.

We are hoping and praying the racing will improve because now we are going back to these tracks with this new car not for the second time but now for the third time. The hope is we can be better and we can work in some areas that will allow us to be better. There clearly is more effort to make these cars handle better at places like Dover and Richmond. We have to build a database and pull the information out that is necessary to fix it. That's what NASCAR did when they built this car from the safety issue.

No one can deny that this car has been tested time and time again. The results have shown less injuries than ever before — everything from broken shoulder blades to broken ribs, even to losing someone, there has been a dramatic decline with this new car. NASCAR set out to make the car safer, and they have passed that with flying colors.

Now, by working on the safety side of it, they may have gotten complacent on what they needed to do on the competitive side of it. Maybe they were looking for more help from the teams, but the teams have now had their shot at it. So maybe it is time for everyone to sit down and put their heads together and figure out a way to fix this.

Like I told someone the other day, maybe they need to move the left front back. I have heard complaints that the drivers don't feel like the left front is hooking up and they are driving on three wheels. So maybe there are some things we have to identify. I mean, this is what we are going to race, so now we just need to tweak on it to make it better. In the process, we may never get it to where we want it. I just know when I watch a race, I want to see four, five, or six guys get up on the wheel and race one another.

I don't think there is anyone within our sport that is 100 percent happy right now with what is going on. I am being honest with you — I don't like it, and I know you don't either.

NASCAR is not ignoring this, I can promise you that. I can promise you they don't have their head stuck in the sand thinking this is going to fix itself overnight. So don't think that and don't get frustrated from that point.

But please understand, we just can't throw something at this for the sake of throwing something at it. It simply costs too much and owners will tell you that you can't just keep throwing money at it. We need to come up with the right solution first and then implement it. As NASCAR has said before, they are trying to let this thing go a full season before making changes. This will allow them to build that database of information.


It's not all bad, though
Let's not lose sight that we have been treated to some really good finishes this year. We have been treated to some really good racing, too. We just haven't gotten all that we were looking for from start to finish. As we said, let's work through it.

Let's use Toyota as an example. Remember what they went through last year? They didn't quit. They kept working and made their product better. That's exactly what we need to do with this new car. Collect and analyze the data. Get feedback from numerous sources. Things are being worked on. Goodyear continues to strive to build a better tire for this new car. All these things are being worked on week in and week out. Collectively they will make our racing better, but it just takes time.

What I have been telling the fans I talk to that are frustrated as I am is don't give up on what this sport is all about. It will be fixed. Sure, it hasn't been what we wanted this year, but it will get better. Trust me; no one in our NASCAR world wants to have it remain the way it is. That's just counter-productive for everybody.

by Jeff Hammond
FOX race analyst Jeff Hammond led Darrell Waltrip to two of DW's three Winston Cup championships as his crew chief. They also teamed to win the 1989 Daytona 500.

[race1010]

Nah, Hendrick, just trying to keep everyone on their toes...;)...we're all in agreement, COT sucks, racing has been boring, too few real contenders (or too much domination by too few), fans staying away in droves, France family acting too much like Tony George et al.....this is strictly a release point for everyone's frustration at the current state of Nascar.

And yes, Jeff Hammond is right, keep working on it till it's right (and I'm sure they will). :D

[Watson Roadster]

Hammond's right about Darlington and the Southern 500.If there's going to be only one race at Darlington per year,should'nt it be on Labour Day and be called the Southern 500?

As for the COT,I guess he mean by moving the left front back he means moving the bump stops to allow more travel on left front suspension...Well,duh...I wonder why the pig pushes like a dump truck...The safety stuff is the only thing NASCAR got right on the car!Michael McDowell's wreck at Texas proved that.The other thing that was not discussed in the article was the rank ugliness of the car.That,as much as anything,is a turn off toward it.

[late model fan]

Little league late model stocks .....................Well if it was not for them you would not have the hamlin's,busch's,harvick's,earnhardt's,labonte's,k enseth's to go watch run in there 500 mile parades. Why do you think they all go back to this kind of racing on off weeks BECAUSE IT IS FUN, TRUE , PUREST form of racing they can do. You do not have to like it,but do call it little league. It seems everything you do not take interest in or like is some how not superior. Man go spend your big bucks to see the nascar races, I have the past 9 years but you can only see so many snoozefest in person before you look somewhere else. A good friend of mine along time ago opened the door to the super late model racing & I thank him all the time for that.You do not need big names to have a great race, hell some of the best races I have seen have been hobby stock races ( not really but sometimes they are good).H48 i respect your points of veiw on nascar but the litle put downs have been getting old for awhile............